ST. LOUIS (AP) -While enduring the long wait for his first sack of the season, Chris Long swears he was not swamped with tips from his Hall of Fame father.

The St. Louis Rams' defensive end was the second overall pick of the 2008 draft, and leads the team's linemen in tackles. But he was shut out in sacks before dropping the Lions' Matthew Stafford in Week 8, which made the team's bye week a lot more relaxing.

Long said he rarely goes a day without touching base with his dad, former Raiders great Howie Long.

He says the topics mostly are father-and-son stuff, even if his dad was a star who went to eight Pro Bowls and racked up 84 career sacks. St. Louis plays at New Orleans this weekend.