WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. (AP) - Figuring out where Wake Forest's program stands these days is a matter of perspective.
The Demon Deacons took a step forward last year after doubling their win total and claiming their first bowl berth since 2008.
But for the third straight year, they still managed to lose more than they won.
Last year's 6-7 finish sure looks better than the 3-9 debacle of 2009. But it's not good enough for those within the program.
Quarterback Tanner Price says the goal is to improve on the previous year's finish and the Demon Deacons want to win seven games a year consistently.
Wake Forest was picked to finish fourth in the ACC's Atlantic Division. The Demon Deacons have a league-low 13 listed starters returning, including three on offense.