METAIRIE, La. (AP) - Another mistake-filled loss has left the New Orleans Saints in a situation they've never dealt with since Drew Brees arrived in 2006 - playing for little more than pride in with three weeks still left in the regular season.

Although the 5-8 Saints aren't officially eliminated from the playoff race after falling 52-27 to the New York Giants on Sunday, they know it would take a miracle for them to have a postseason future. Four turnovers and horrendous kickoff coverage against the Giants essentially ended their final chance.

The Saints have 11 turnovers in their last three games.

Interim coach Joe Vitt says that in the NFL ``you have to first keep from losing before you can ever win.'' He says the Saints aren't playing smart of very disciplined.